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I trust starting a new thread is appropriate, I looked at the existing threads and I wasn't sure if these are still followed given the time since the last postings.

I'd like better tires for off-road than the Shinko 700 series than I'm using on my 2019 1090r. A year ago I swapped out the stock TKC 80's as I was alarmed at the rate of wear. I was by far using them on asphalt and worried coming into that the winter that they wouldn't grip in the rain. The rear was more than half way through it's wear life after only a few thousand miles.

I put on the Shinkos which are great value for money and very smooth on the highway even at very high speeds. But I've done a considerable amount of off-road since then and find they don't 'bite' and I'm spinning the rear wheel on all types of surface.

I don't know what kind of off road surface I'll be riding on this season but certainly a mix. I don't know if there is a magical tire out there either but one of the hardest stretches I did in 2021 was in mud. I thought a 'knobbier' tire would have helped things but then I read some postings and no longer sure.

At one point the positive response to Motoz Tractionnators seemed the route to go but they are difficult to get here (Canada) seems the 150/70 is out of stock everywhere.

Any assistance appreciated. I'm planning on a SW USA trip this spring with some off-road in Arizona and Utah.

Regards,
Colm
 

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I trust starting a new thread is appropriate, I looked at the existing threads and I wasn't sure if these are still followed given the time since the last postings.

I'd like better tires for off-road than the Shinko 700 series than I'm using on my 2019 1090r. A year ago I swapped out the stock TKC 80's as I was alarmed at the rate of wear. I was by far using them on asphalt and worried coming into that the winter that they wouldn't grip in the rain. The rear was more than half way through it's wear life after only a few thousand miles.

I put on the Shinkos which are great value for money and very smooth on the highway even at very high speeds. But I've done a considerable amount of off-road since then and find they don't 'bite' and I'm spinning the rear wheel on all types of surface.

I don't know what kind of off road surface I'll be riding on this season but certainly a mix. I don't know if there is a magical tire out there either but one of the hardest stretches I did in 2021 was in mud. I thought a 'knobbier' tire would have helped things but then I read some postings and no longer sure.

At one point the positive response to Motoz Tractionnators seemed the route to go but they are difficult to get here (Canada) seems the 150/70 is out of stock everywhere.

Any assistance appreciated. I'm planning on a SW USA trip this spring with some off-road in Arizona and Utah.

Regards,
Colm
I trust starting a new thread is appropriate, I looked at the existing threads and I wasn't sure if these are still followed given the time since the last postings.

I'd like better tires for off-road than the Shinko 700 series than I'm using on my 2019 1090r. A year ago I swapped out the stock TKC 80's as I was alarmed at the rate of wear. I was by far using them on asphalt and worried coming into that the winter that they wouldn't grip in the rain. The rear was more than half way through it's wear life after only a few thousand miles.

I put on the Shinkos which are great value for money and very smooth on the highway even at very high speeds. But I've done a considerable amount of off-road since then and find they don't 'bite' and I'm spinning the rear wheel on all types of surface.

I don't know what kind of off road surface I'll be riding on this season but certainly a mix. I don't know if there is a magical tire out there either but one of the hardest stretches I did in 2021 was in mud. I thought a 'knobbier' tire would have helped things but then I read some postings and no longer sure.

At one point the positive response to Motoz Tractionnators seemed the route to go but they are difficult to get here (Canada) seems the 150/70 is out of stock everywhere.

Any assistance appreciated. I'm planning on a SW USA trip this spring with some off-road in Arizona and Utah.

Regards,
Colm
Hands down the best off road tire I have found is the Motoz Desert H/T, but they are loud on road. I currently am running Motoz Adventures. Plenty quiet on road, haven't got them off road yet. Did N. AZ BDR and all of UTBDR on a Desert H/T, it was amazing. 10/10!
 

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Another option I’ve found is the Mitas e-07 or Mitas e-09. The latter being more off-road orientated but both in the Dakar version are super hard wearing and good value. They are a harder tyre than the tkc but subsequently have better life. They’re a good option if you ride off-road regularly but have motorway miles to do too.
 
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